So do i. Just something about turning pages. When you complete it and can see all the pages you went through.
MonkeyTheMonk on
I prefer paper too, but not by enough for me to buy paper books these days. I think that, at home, where space and light aren’t much of an issue, paper is the better reading experience. A kindle is easier to slip into your pocket for travel though. If you don’t have a lot of shelf space for paper books, it is also easier to keep things digitally organized.
For example, I was at a robotics competition all of last weekend, and I was able to pass the free time with a couple of books on my kindle. I could keep it in my coat pocket, and easily read anywhere. Putting a paper version of [Malazan](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20648041-the-complete-malazan-book-of-the-fallen) in my pocket? Not so easy. Kindle version? No problem!
BigDisk on
I’m in the 1% who prefers screens. Go figure.
JitGoinHam on
This is why I print out hard copies of every reddit thread I participate in.
Edit: I’m sorry, but this is too many replies. Each of you needs to chip in towards a new toner cartridge, otherwise they’re not getting read.
Edit 2: It says TANDY DMP-105 on the front.
subconscious-subvers on
Kindles are the best when the books are long (like over 500 pages).
I just don’t find books that large comfortable to hold and read, particularly at the beginning and towards the end.
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Crowlands on
I wish people wouldn’t use the phrase real books when they actually mean paper books, it is the content that makes something a real book, paper or epub is merely the container for it.
Momoneycubed_yeah on
I wonder if people posted these articles on the internet when the move from stone tablets to paper was in progress.
“I just like feeling the weight of a real book.”
ninelives1 on
Holy shit, we’re doing this again guys?
Can we just rename this sub /r/antikindle-circlejerk
Zombiehype on
this sub really needs a rule against analog/digital circlejerking bullshit
JimTheHammer_Shapiro on
Is it possible that when they have the iPad in their hands that they want to do things that aren’t reading? Like that there are more stimulating things to do on there than read and it’s more a matter of distraction for kids than a book is?
nadroj105 on
It seems everyone thinks e-readers are tablets or phones with normal screens and ignores e-ink screens on e-readers which are amazing. Actual e-readers are great I charge it once every couple months and it remembers my place in every book on it and if needed has the ability to define words for me. Also no eye strain because it looks like paper so I don’t know how it could hurt your eyes more than a paper book.
Kinglink on
Oh good its been entirely too long since we had this masturbatory conversation.
And by that I mean hours.
yeadoge on
Does anyone actually read these articles? The headlines never match the actual research. Here’s what it says:
“In a study of children in Year 4 and 6, those who had regular access to devices with eReading capability (such as Kindles, iPads and mobile phones) did not tend to use their devices for reading – and this was the case even when they were daily book readers.
Research also found that the more devices a child had access to, the less they read in general.
It suggests that providing children with eReading devices can actually inhibit their reading, and that paper books are often still preferred by young people. ”
So we’re including iPads and mobile phones, and saying that they did not tend to use those devices for reading. The last sentence is such a farce too. The headline of the article is just an inference from the fact that people aren’t reading on their iPads and mobile phones, and having those devices means they read less often. That’s an illogical conclusion to draw when you’re including devices that have 100 other uses than reading in the equation.
Until someone does a study of eReaders against books straight up and asks for preferences, we’re never getting a real answer to this question.
SenorBeef on
This sounds like garbage methodology.
“It suggests that providing children with eReading devices can actually inhibit their reading, and that paper books are often still preferred by young people.”
But you’re not providing them with strictly e-reading devices. You lumped e-readers, tablets, and phones into the same category, and you’re shocked that kids do less reading when they have a tablet or phone in front of them. No shit.
Give them e-readers and only e-readers with e-ink screens and see what the effect is. That is very different from handing them an ipad and saying “do whatever you want kid, oh btw you can read books on this thing”
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valleyofdespair on
This is actually a really poorly conducted study. It only asks if the child has an eReader and how often they read eBooks and how often they read paper books. It assumes children of age 8 – 12 with eReaders have equal access to and choice of both eBooks and paper books. It tracks how these children read, not why they read in that way.
Children ages 8 – 12 don’t buy books. They are given access to them as gifts and from school and local libraries. The format they read them is based on the person actually providing the book.
My 11 year old is currently reading the paper version of Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy because I gave her the paper version for Christmas. Prior to this she read the eBook versions of Harry Potter, because I shared it from my Kindle library.
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So do i. Just something about turning pages. When you complete it and can see all the pages you went through.
I prefer paper too, but not by enough for me to buy paper books these days. I think that, at home, where space and light aren’t much of an issue, paper is the better reading experience. A kindle is easier to slip into your pocket for travel though. If you don’t have a lot of shelf space for paper books, it is also easier to keep things digitally organized.
For example, I was at a robotics competition all of last weekend, and I was able to pass the free time with a couple of books on my kindle. I could keep it in my coat pocket, and easily read anywhere. Putting a paper version of [Malazan](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20648041-the-complete-malazan-book-of-the-fallen) in my pocket? Not so easy. Kindle version? No problem!
I’m in the 1% who prefers screens. Go figure.
This is why I print out hard copies of every reddit thread I participate in.
Edit: I’m sorry, but this is too many replies. Each of you needs to chip in towards a new toner cartridge, otherwise they’re not getting read.
Edit 2: It says TANDY DMP-105 on the front.
Kindles are the best when the books are long (like over 500 pages).
I just don’t find books that large comfortable to hold and read, particularly at the beginning and towards the end.
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I wish people wouldn’t use the phrase real books when they actually mean paper books, it is the content that makes something a real book, paper or epub is merely the container for it.
I wonder if people posted these articles on the internet when the move from stone tablets to paper was in progress.
“I just like feeling the weight of a real book.”
Holy shit, we’re doing this again guys?
Can we just rename this sub /r/antikindle-circlejerk
this sub really needs a rule against analog/digital circlejerking bullshit
Is it possible that when they have the iPad in their hands that they want to do things that aren’t reading? Like that there are more stimulating things to do on there than read and it’s more a matter of distraction for kids than a book is?
It seems everyone thinks e-readers are tablets or phones with normal screens and ignores e-ink screens on e-readers which are amazing. Actual e-readers are great I charge it once every couple months and it remembers my place in every book on it and if needed has the ability to define words for me. Also no eye strain because it looks like paper so I don’t know how it could hurt your eyes more than a paper book.
Oh good its been entirely too long since we had this masturbatory conversation.
And by that I mean hours.
Does anyone actually read these articles? The headlines never match the actual research. Here’s what it says:
“In a study of children in Year 4 and 6, those who had regular access to devices with eReading capability (such as Kindles, iPads and mobile phones) did not tend to use their devices for reading – and this was the case even when they were daily book readers.
Research also found that the more devices a child had access to, the less they read in general.
It suggests that providing children with eReading devices can actually inhibit their reading, and that paper books are often still preferred by young people. ”
So we’re including iPads and mobile phones, and saying that they did not tend to use those devices for reading. The last sentence is such a farce too. The headline of the article is just an inference from the fact that people aren’t reading on their iPads and mobile phones, and having those devices means they read less often. That’s an illogical conclusion to draw when you’re including devices that have 100 other uses than reading in the equation.
Until someone does a study of eReaders against books straight up and asks for preferences, we’re never getting a real answer to this question.
This sounds like garbage methodology.
“It suggests that providing children with eReading devices can actually inhibit their reading, and that paper books are often still preferred by young people.”
But you’re not providing them with strictly e-reading devices. You lumped e-readers, tablets, and phones into the same category, and you’re shocked that kids do less reading when they have a tablet or phone in front of them. No shit.
Give them e-readers and only e-readers with e-ink screens and see what the effect is. That is very different from handing them an ipad and saying “do whatever you want kid, oh btw you can read books on this thing”
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This is actually a really poorly conducted study. It only asks if the child has an eReader and how often they read eBooks and how often they read paper books. It assumes children of age 8 – 12 with eReaders have equal access to and choice of both eBooks and paper books. It tracks how these children read, not why they read in that way.
Children ages 8 – 12 don’t buy books. They are given access to them as gifts and from school and local libraries. The format they read them is based on the person actually providing the book.
My 11 year old is currently reading the paper version of Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy because I gave her the paper version for Christmas. Prior to this she read the eBook versions of Harry Potter, because I shared it from my Kindle library.