Ask AI for help finally finishing the damn series.
WesternWitchy52 on
If it’s the books I write then AI is gonna have a strange obsession with bully romances.
failsafe-author on
Not much I could do, but I’d be angry.
irulancorrino on
This is real “fuck you, pay me” situation.
pearloz on
ITT: Surprising number of AI-apologists
mykepagan on
Devil’s advocate: You just found out that your book was read in a creative writing workshop to train new writers. Now what?
AllThingsBeginWithNu on
Something read my book ?
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Adventurous_Lie_4141 on
I sue, cuz it’s my work and I didn’t give permission to use it.
OptimalAd204 on
My book would set AI back 100 years.
HeySlimIJustDrankA5 on
Somebody read *Faster Than The Speed Of Love*?
BlaiveBrettfordstain on
It’s kinda unnerving how many “would you be upset at people being inspired by your books” people are here. Apparently a person = AI. And inspiration/fanfiction = mindlessly digesting thousands of books.
OrionQX on
These comments are so depressing.
We need to protect human creativity and voices from AI.
AI will just vomit soulless art and literature based on the works of hundreds if not thousands of people’s experiences, thoughts and emotions. All of this will be done for profit not the enrichment of our lives and culture through human creativity and beauty.
The fact that we are heading toward a future where we have to work awful jobs just to survive while AI is creating art and literature instead of us is just awful.
EthanPrisonMike on
At least someone read it
Responsible_Star2783 on
Call your lawyer
whydoidothistomyslf on
Oh man, that AI is going to need a serious editor.
neroselene on
Is it being used to make a profit? If no, then I don’t care.
If someone IS profiting off it? Then they will be hearing from my lawyer.
KhaosElement on
“I wrote a book that was worth stealing?”
“No, it’s an example of how not to write.”
“Yeah, okay. Makes sense.”
65437509 on
There really needs to be actual legislation over this, in a direction that is hopefully representative of what people believe. It’s preposterous that you’d use nothing but court rulings on extremely outdated laws for a technology that is going to grow massively for the next 50 years.
We can argue over the most minute interpretations of copyright and fair use for a trillion years, but maybe our politicians should do what we pay them for… write the laws and make decisions that follow the public interest.
On a related note, these datasets typically use pirated material as their primary source; Meta is not buying 500000 books and OCRing them, and converting ebooks is usually against their terms. There is something to be said about commercial technology, that is sold at a profit, that was created on the basis of illegal material. If Joe Anyone did this they’d get their house raided and a decade-long prison sentence.
LyleTheFirst on
AI creator: “Why is the AI suddenly writing all of these weird eroticas involving muscular men and ‘monstergirls’?”
Me: 👁👄👁
CatherineA73 on
I’ve been reading up on that, although I’m not a writer.
All the information says that AI doesn’t actually plagerize writers when it’s asked to write something, even in the voice of a famous author. So it’s really not different than teaching people to write by making them read famous books, or teaching them to paint by copying famous artists.
As long as the companies actually purchase the books that are used to train the AI, I don’t see anything for writers to worry about – I’ve seen what AI writes in the business world, and we are years away from it being better than what a 7th-grader can do.
I think it’s the self-published, un-edited writers who should be worried; AI will soon be better than they are!
SelectNetwork1 on
OpenAI is a for-profit entity (despite the name) seeking valuation at around $90 billion. The issue isn’t whether LLMs are good or bad but whether copyrighted work is being used for commercial purposes without attribution or compensation.
In a vacuum, I would be happy for something that could eventually lead to an emerging form of consciousness to learn from my writing. In practice, I don’t want massive corporations to use my work for commercial purposes without my permission. (Plus, we couldn’t survive in a vacuum.)
If you’re attached to the idea that this is the same as a human reader reading a bunch of books to learn (which—back in the vacuum—I think is not unreasonable), consider that when human readers read books, they generally obtain them through a process that the author has given explicit permission for, whether that’s a bookstore, a library, or a free online source. If a corporation wants to use a book for a derivative product (e.g., a TV show), they have to get the author’s permission, even if they plan to deviate far from the original text.
This should be no different; it’s not about whether the LLM will plagiarize (although I am skeptical that this is preventable) but whether someone is making a commercial product using copyrighted work. These companies are also aware this is a problem! That’s why companies like Appen are [hiring creative writers](https://restofworld.org/2023/ai-developers-fiction-poetry-scale-ai-appen/) to produce work specifically for AI training.
Nightshade_Ranch on
Now it can discuss it with the people using AI. Like if two people read the same book from the library.
It’s not that deep.
Poopynuggateer on
I weep for AI if it ever has the misfortune of being trained on my early attempts at hardcore snuff fiction, set in the world of Animorphs.
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Now nothing.
File baseless lawsuit immediately, then lose
I wrote a book? Fuck yeah!
Give me residuals!
Ask AI for help finally finishing the damn series.
If it’s the books I write then AI is gonna have a strange obsession with bully romances.
Not much I could do, but I’d be angry.
This is real “fuck you, pay me” situation.
ITT: Surprising number of AI-apologists
Devil’s advocate: You just found out that your book was read in a creative writing workshop to train new writers. Now what?
Something read my book ?
[removed]
I sue, cuz it’s my work and I didn’t give permission to use it.
My book would set AI back 100 years.
Somebody read *Faster Than The Speed Of Love*?
It’s kinda unnerving how many “would you be upset at people being inspired by your books” people are here. Apparently a person = AI. And inspiration/fanfiction = mindlessly digesting thousands of books.
These comments are so depressing.
We need to protect human creativity and voices from AI.
AI will just vomit soulless art and literature based on the works of hundreds if not thousands of people’s experiences, thoughts and emotions. All of this will be done for profit not the enrichment of our lives and culture through human creativity and beauty.
The fact that we are heading toward a future where we have to work awful jobs just to survive while AI is creating art and literature instead of us is just awful.
At least someone read it
Call your lawyer
Oh man, that AI is going to need a serious editor.
Is it being used to make a profit? If no, then I don’t care.
If someone IS profiting off it? Then they will be hearing from my lawyer.
“I wrote a book that was worth stealing?”
“No, it’s an example of how not to write.”
“Yeah, okay. Makes sense.”
There really needs to be actual legislation over this, in a direction that is hopefully representative of what people believe. It’s preposterous that you’d use nothing but court rulings on extremely outdated laws for a technology that is going to grow massively for the next 50 years.
We can argue over the most minute interpretations of copyright and fair use for a trillion years, but maybe our politicians should do what we pay them for… write the laws and make decisions that follow the public interest.
On a related note, these datasets typically use pirated material as their primary source; Meta is not buying 500000 books and OCRing them, and converting ebooks is usually against their terms. There is something to be said about commercial technology, that is sold at a profit, that was created on the basis of illegal material. If Joe Anyone did this they’d get their house raided and a decade-long prison sentence.
AI creator: “Why is the AI suddenly writing all of these weird eroticas involving muscular men and ‘monstergirls’?”
Me: 👁👄👁
I’ve been reading up on that, although I’m not a writer.
All the information says that AI doesn’t actually plagerize writers when it’s asked to write something, even in the voice of a famous author. So it’s really not different than teaching people to write by making them read famous books, or teaching them to paint by copying famous artists.
As long as the companies actually purchase the books that are used to train the AI, I don’t see anything for writers to worry about – I’ve seen what AI writes in the business world, and we are years away from it being better than what a 7th-grader can do.
I think it’s the self-published, un-edited writers who should be worried; AI will soon be better than they are!
OpenAI is a for-profit entity (despite the name) seeking valuation at around $90 billion. The issue isn’t whether LLMs are good or bad but whether copyrighted work is being used for commercial purposes without attribution or compensation.
In a vacuum, I would be happy for something that could eventually lead to an emerging form of consciousness to learn from my writing. In practice, I don’t want massive corporations to use my work for commercial purposes without my permission. (Plus, we couldn’t survive in a vacuum.)
If you’re attached to the idea that this is the same as a human reader reading a bunch of books to learn (which—back in the vacuum—I think is not unreasonable), consider that when human readers read books, they generally obtain them through a process that the author has given explicit permission for, whether that’s a bookstore, a library, or a free online source. If a corporation wants to use a book for a derivative product (e.g., a TV show), they have to get the author’s permission, even if they plan to deviate far from the original text.
This should be no different; it’s not about whether the LLM will plagiarize (although I am skeptical that this is preventable) but whether someone is making a commercial product using copyrighted work. These companies are also aware this is a problem! That’s why companies like Appen are [hiring creative writers](https://restofworld.org/2023/ai-developers-fiction-poetry-scale-ai-appen/) to produce work specifically for AI training.
Now it can discuss it with the people using AI. Like if two people read the same book from the library.
It’s not that deep.
I weep for AI if it ever has the misfortune of being trained on my early attempts at hardcore snuff fiction, set in the world of Animorphs.