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    It is a trope with so much potential, and yet, all I seem to find is the same paint water fantasy set dressing with nothing plots. So perhaps I am looking in the wrong direction (Anime, Manga, Light novels, Webtoons.) The souless meatgrinder that is the anime industry is likely not very conductive to much creative exploration.

    So what am I looking for then?

    A. Superfan of a piece of media yeeted into it upon death.

    Except trying to live in your (as an example) favourite fantasy book is very different from reading it.

    A.1. You are nobody, you know nobody, you don’t even speak the language. The knowledge of what will happen, knowledge of things you really should not know, it is arguably not that useful. Not when you’re currently more concerned with with what you’re going to eat that evening or where you’re going to sleep. (Alongside figuring out what the hell is going on.)

    You could try to fix things, prevent tragedies. But you have no special main character powers, no surprise inheritances or animal companions. Oh and you’re still on the point of not dying of starvation, or any of all the other things.

    There are many things you should have no way of even knowing. Things some people would kill you over were they to even suspect you do.

    A.2. Your favourite piece of media just happens to be like dark souls. Or any other thing death is common.

    Again, not dying would be nice.

    And maybe you can die and not stay dead. Except you always wake up at the same point in time, anything you’ve accomplished reset. And dying hurts, a lot.

    B. It’s a video game! One you just started playing before dying!

    And now you have to deal with video game mechanics (no stat windows, what are you talking about?)

    Your footsteps only have a limited amount of sound effects they can make. Eat anything and it will just be consumed whole instantly. Lay down in a bed and now you’ve slept the whole night.

    And maybe you won’t notice at first but eventually you will run out of things to talk about with the npc’s. There are no real people and after chatting with them enough they’ll will repeat dialogue tree’s. There are only so many things that they’ll respond to.

    C. There is a isekaié but we the audience does not get to find out. (They’re not the main character.)

    D. They decide to prevent the conflict by murdering the antagonists before they can commit any crimes. To mixed results.

    I would be open to other interesting ideas.

    And more generally I’d prefer without romance, at least not with the main character.

    Something with interesting world building, and compelling characters. That could stand on its own as a regular story.

    I am also quite partial to morally dubious character’s and protagonists who slowly fall into villainy. The road to hell and all that.

    Please no system windows or “helpful Gods who is behind the reincarnation.”

    But they may have been summoned by some wizard who needed a person for parts but messed up the spell.

    by Ketty48

    6 Comments

    1. Scuttling-Claws on

      If you’re tired of isekai, you want Every Heart a Doorway by Seanen Mcguire

    2. _The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, the Unbeliever_ predates the vast majority of isekai media, but I think it fits the bill. It follows Thomas Covenant, an author who was recently diagnosed with leprosy and even more recently divorced. After being hit by a car, he wakes up in a fantasy world, and struggles to decide if anything is real. It’s a long-running and much-loved series, with a complex and detailed world.

      Because it’s an American series started in the 1970s, it starts from a deeply isekai premise but without any of the assumptions that are now inherent to the genre.

    3. bigbysemotivefinger on

      A1 is Delve. 

      A2 is The Perfect Run by Maxime Durand

      C is Mark of the Fool

      The miscellany at the end is Only Villains Do That.

    4. jugglingfred on

      [https://wanderinginn.com/](https://wanderinginn.com/) is about a girl transported to a fantasy world who ends up being an innkeeper. The story has multiple interesting characters and world building galore. It does have some very light litrpg elements (most people in the world can gain classes which level and give skills), but there are no numbers or stat pages. The series adds characters and viewpoints over time, but the main character tries to survive as a happy cheery innkeeper in a world that is war torn and disaster ridden. It is an ongoing series, but has over 12 million words currently written, making it possibly the longest fantasy series in English, and the author continues to write at a frankly astonishing pace.

    5. boxer_dogs_dance on

      The dragon and the George and sequels by Gordon Dickson,

      The spell Singer series by Allan Dean Foster

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